Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

01/22/2024 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:01:21 PM Start
01:02:16 PM Presentation(s): Governor's Council on Human and Sex Trafficking
02:41:31 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Presentation: Governor's Council on Human and Sex TELECONFERENCED
Trafficking by Bryan Barlow, Deputy Commissioner;
and Katie Tepas, Program Coordinator II, Alaska
State Troopers, Department of Public Safety
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 22, 2024                                                                                        
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Jamie Allard, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
Representative Andrew Gray                                                                                                      
Representative Cliff Groh                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  GOVERNOR'S COUNCIL ON HUMAN AND SEX                                                                           
TRAFFICKING                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARDNG                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BARLOW, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                               
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a PowerPoint, entitled                                                                      
"Governor's Council on Human and Sex Trafficking."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KATIE TEPAS, Program Coordinator                                                                                                
Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                           
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint on the                                                                       
Governor's Council on Human and Sex Trafficking.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SARAH  VANCE called the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to order  at 1:01  p.m.   Representatives Sumner,  Gray,                                                               
Allard,  and   Vance  were   present  at   the  call   to  order.                                                               
Representatives Carpenter,  C. Johnson,  and Groh arrived  as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):     Governor's   Council  on   Human  and   Sex                                                               
Trafficking                                                                                                                     
     PRESENTATION(S):  Governor's Council on Human and Sex                                                                  
                          Trafficking                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
1:02:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced that the only  order of business would be a                                                               
presentation  on   the  Governor's  Council  on   Human  and  Sex                                                               
Trafficking.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:03:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BARLOW,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department of  Public Safety                                                               
(DPS),  co-presented a  PowerPoint, entitled  "Governor's Council                                                               
on  Human  and  Sex  Trafficking"  [hard  copy  included  in  the                                                               
committee packet].  He explained  the foundations of the original                                                               
council, established  on December 14, 2021,  under Administrative                                                               
Order  328. The  council  completed their  duties  and put  forth                                                               
recommendations to the  governor on September 28,  2023. He began                                                               
on  slide   2,  which  read  as  follows   [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Administrative Order 351                                                                                                   
        o  Effective October 9, 2023                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        o  Administrative Order (AO) 328 which established the                                                                  
          Governor's Council on Human  and Sex Trafficking (CHST)                                                               
          within  the Department  of Public  Safety, was  revoked                                                               
          and Governor  Dunleavy issued  AO 351,  reinstating the                                                               
          CHST with  a revised membership and  updated duties and                                                               
          responsibilities.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 DEPUTY  COMISSIONER  BARLOW moved  to  slide  3, which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     State Members                                                                                                              
        o One representative from the Alaska Mental Health Trust                                                                
        o The  commissioner  of  the   Department  of  Health  or                                                               
          designee                                                                                                              
        o  The Alaska Attorney General or designee                                                                              
        o The Commissioner of the Department  of Public Safety or                                                               
          designee                                                                                                              
        o  The Commissioner  of the Department of  Corrections or                                                               
          designee                                                                                                              
        o The  Commissioner of  the Department  of Education  and                                                               
          Early Development or designee                                                                                         
        o *The  Commissioner  of  the  Department  of  Labor  and                                                               
          Workforce Development or designee                                                                                     
        o *The  Commissioner  of  the Department  of  Family  and                                                               
          community services or designee                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW explained that the bullet points                                                                      
marked with * were new additions to the council per AO 351.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:06:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW moved on to slide 4, which read as                                                                    
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Public Members                                                                                                             
      o  Two mayors or local-government-elected-officials                                                                       
        o One representative from a victim advocacy organization                                                                
        o One  representative from  an Alaska  Native stakeholder                                                               
          organization                                                                                                          
        o One representative from a local law enforcement agency                                                                
        o One   representative  from   a  faith-based   community                                                               
          organization.                                                                                                         
        o One representative  from a  homelessness direct-service                                                               
          provider                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW noted vacant positions, and who                                                                       
currently held each position.  He continued to slide 5, which                                                                   
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Ex-Officio Members                                                                                                         
        o The Governor  requests two ex-officio members,  one who                                                               
          is a  member of  the Alaska  State Senate  appointed by                                                               
          the Senate  President, and one  who is a member  of the                                                               
          Alaska  House  of  Representatives,  Appointed  by  the                                                               
          Speaker of the House                                                                                                  
                   • Representative Vance                                                                                       
                   • Senator Kiehl                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMISSIONER  BARLOW   proceeded  with  the  presentation,                                                               
noting  that a  lot  of the  FY 24  plan  influenced the  current                                                               
Administrative Order  351.  He  continued to slide 6,  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Fiscal Year 2024 Plan                                                                                                      
        o On September 28, 2023, the  CHST fulfilled their duties                                                               
          under  AO 328  and submitted  their recommendations  to                                                               
          the Office of the Governor                                                                                            
        o CHST  members expressed  their  commitment to  ensuring                                                               
          the work to combat human  and sex trafficking in Alaska                                                               
          continues                                                                                                             
        o On  July 19,  2023, the  CHST developed  a fiscal  year                                                               
          (FY) plan  for FY2024  which was submitted  to Governor                                                               
          Dunleavy for consideration                                                                                            
        o Duties outlined  in AO 351  mirror (For the  most part)                                                               
          the FY2024 plan                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW continued to slide 7, which read as                                                                   
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Council Duties under AO 351                                                                                                
        o initiating  a proposal  to the  Governor for  statutory                                                               
          implementation of the Council                                                                                         
        o Coordinating  with  the  Department  of  Education  and                                                               
          Early  Development's   traffick9ing  curriculum  review                                                               
          committee to  provide a rubric for  school districts in                                                               
          providing  age-appropriate  curricula for  school-based                                                               
          youth.                                                                                                                
        o  Assisting  the  Department   of  Education  and  Early                                                               
          Development's  e-learning  module   for  educators,  to                                                               
          increase  the   understanding  among   educators  about                                                               
          issues, indicators, indicators, and resources relating                                                                
          to trafficking youth.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:10:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW advanced to slide 9, which read as                                                                    
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Council Duties under AO 351                                                                                                
        o Producing  discipline-specific   training  for  medical                                                               
          providers,  mental health/behavioral  health providers,                                                               
          social workers, law enforcement, and other appropriate                                                                
          disciplines.                                                                                                          
        o Designing,   developing,    and   implementing   public                                                               
          messaging   on   trafficking   directed   to   victims,                                                               
          survivors, and the general public, aimed at increasing                                                                
          awareness and reducing demand.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW returned to slide 8, which read as                                                                    
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Council Duties Under AO 351                                                                                                
        o Developing an  electronic rural resource guide  or tool                                                               
          kit for victims/survivors and communities                                                                             
        o Evaluating expansion  of the survivor's  assistance for                                                               
          Escaping Trafficking (SAFE-T) Grant Program                                                                           
        o Assessing  avenues  to  expand  individual  access  and                                                               
          organizational billing for essential healthcare and                                                                   
          mental health supports                                                                                                
        o Ongoing evaluation of the  efficacy of demand reduction                                                               
          programs                                                                                                              
        o Producing annual  public reports on the  activities and                                                               
          recommendations of the Council                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW cited the FY24 plan as an example of                                                                  
such public reports.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:13:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW proceeded to slide 10, which read as                                                                  
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
     Council Highlights                                                                                                         
        o Commitment                                                                                                            
        o FY2024                                                                                                                
        o Proposed statutory duties for the CHST                                                                                
        o One director two  board model for CHST  and the Council                                                               
        on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (CDVSA)                                                                         
        o Data Summary document approved for public release                                                                     
                  • Contains data from state, federal, and                                                                      
                    municipal agencies as well as non-profit                                                                    
                    agencies                                                                                                    
                  • Data is from calendar year 2023.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:14:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE  TEPAS,  Program  Coordinator   ,  Alaska  State  Troopers,                                                               
Department of  Public Safety  (DPS), co-presented  the PowerPoint                                                               
on  the Governor's  Council on  Human and  Sex Trafficking.   She                                                               
explained the  council's recommendations.   She said  Specific to                                                               
the  FY 24  Plan was  providing the  Governor and  Chair of  this                                                               
committee  with  specific  language for  the  proposed  statutory                                                               
duties of  the CHST, of which  has been given and  utilized in HB
259.   She  underlined the  importance of  putting the  CHST into                                                               
statute,  saying it  would be  "extremely important  to move  the                                                               
mission forward."  She also spoke  on the "one director two board                                                               
model" specific  to House Bill 325,  to oversee the CHST  and the                                                               
Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (CDVSA)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:16:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS continued  to slide 10 and discussed  the "data summary                                                               
document" portion of the slide.   She explained that the document                                                               
contains  data from  state, federal,  and municipal  agencies, as                                                               
well as non-profit  agencies.  She explained where  the data came                                                               
from, as  well as when  (2023).  She said  the hope is  that next                                                               
year, the  Council may  begin to  develop data  on past  years in                                                               
order to  begin doing trend  analysis.   She said the  council is                                                               
not  responsible  for  each  data  set, and  if  anyone  has  any                                                               
questions pertaining to  those data sets, that they  reach out to                                                               
the individual agencies who possess those unique data sets.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:19:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS moved  on to slide 11, which read  as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Council Highlights                                                                                                         
        o Education and Public Awareness Sub-Committees                                                                         
        o Demand Reduction Report from Legislative Research                                                                     
          Service                                                                                                               
        o Coordinating with Anchorage Task Force                                                                                
        o Upcoming meetings with US Advisory Council on Human                                                                   
          Trafficking-regional trip to Alaska                                                                                   
        o Training                                                                                                              
       o Partnerships and coordinating across disciplines                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TEPAS  explained  that the  sub-committee  would  provide  a                                                               
rubric for  any proposed curriculum  and stressed  the importance                                                               
of age-appropriate  curriculum to teach children  about human and                                                               
sex  trafficking.   She acknowledged  that  the demand  reduction                                                               
report  was  requested  from  Legislative  Research  Services  by                                                               
Senator  Kiehl and  was  meant  to focus  on  research to  reduce                                                               
demand for Human and Sex trafficking.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARLOW added  that victimization could be  lessened by making                                                               
increased efforts for the offender after incarceration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  continued slide 11.   She discussed  coordination with                                                               
the Anchorage  Task Force, saying  they were  developing specific                                                               
curriculum  for their  patrol  officers.  She described  upcoming                                                               
meetings with U.S. Advisory Council  on Human Trafficking & their                                                               
regional  trip  to  Alaska,  as well  as  internal  and  external                                                               
training,   utilizing  partnerships,   and  coordination   across                                                               
disciplines to create the trainings.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:26:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  concluded on  slide 12, Which  brought to  light Human                                                               
Trafficking Awareness Month.   The slide showed  a letter written                                                               
by Governor  Dunleavy to "Proclaim  January 2024 as  Alaska Human                                                               
Trafficking Prevention Month," as well  as a 3 different graphics                                                               
supporting and  explaining human trafficking awareness.   The 1st                                                               
graphic on  the bottom left was  a rendering of a  Blue Ribbon, a                                                               
common  symbol &  color to  represent National  Human Trafficking                                                               
Awareness Day.   The graphic  read "WEAR BLUE TO  BRING AWARENESS                                                               
TO  HUMAN TRAFFICKING"  The  second graphic  pictured  a road  to                                                               
describe chronologically  how human trafficking can  happen, what                                                               
it is, and what you can do if  you suspect someone is a victim or                                                               
responsible  for  human trafficking.    In  the lower  right-hand                                                               
corner  was   a  graphic  made   for  Alaska   Human  Trafficking                                                               
Prevention Month,  simply of a hand  with the shape of  the state                                                               
of Alaska in it with the  words written "STOP" inside the outline                                                               
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TEPAS  explained  that  the council  has  moved  "leaps  and                                                               
bounds"  since last  year, given  that they  are still  operating                                                               
under  an AO,  and have  no designated  staff.   She acknowledged                                                               
Chair  Vance and  thanked  her  for her  support  in keeping  the                                                               
council working and doing their work.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  concluded the  presentation and  opened the  floor for                                                               
any questions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:28:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE asked Ms. Tepas to expand on the available training.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS said that winter  training is available to their Sexual                                                               
Assault Response  Team members.   She  said for  law enforcement,                                                               
the training  is posted  on the  Alaska Police  Standards Council                                                               
(APSC) training page, as well as  the CHST has their own internal                                                               
calendar  where the  public may  find trainings.   Trainings  and                                                               
information  are also  available  through the  Alaska Network  on                                                               
Domestic Violence and the Alaska  Native Women's Resource center.                                                               
She said the  goal is to have an online  learning portal for more                                                               
accessibility.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:30:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:30 to 1:35.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE noted that the  livestream went down at approximately                                                               
1:30 PM due to technical difficulties.   She noted that they were                                                               
recording for  the public, but  there was no  livestream anywhere                                                               
else in the building.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  asked whether last year's  legislation was                                                               
severe enough in terms of punishment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARLOW  agreed   the  reducing  the  demand   was  vital  to                                                               
addressing the  problem that was  victimizing innocent  people in                                                               
the society.   He said verbatim "The Department  of Public Safety                                                               
(DPS)  would support  legislation  that allows  public safety  to                                                               
effectively  deal  with  the  demand."   He  said  public  safety                                                               
appreciates having effective  tools to deal with the  root of the                                                               
problem, which is the victimization of innocent people.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE asked  what a  demand reduction  program would  look                                                               
like and how it would be administered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARLOW deferred the question to Ms. Tepas.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  explained that  it begins  with identifying  those who                                                               
seek  to pay  for  sex, a  "patron".   This  is  usually done  by                                                               
arrest, after which  anyone arrested for purchasing  sex could be                                                               
court ordered  into the demand  reduction program.  She  said the                                                               
programs could  only take place  if law enforcement  was actively                                                               
working on identifying those individuals.   She said the programs                                                               
varied around the nation, thus  the study Senator Keihl requested                                                               
to see which type of program would be most effective for Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE questioned  the motivation  for  DPS increasing  the                                                               
charges for offenders.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISIONER BARLOW  said the  Department is  motivated to                                                               
bring  accountability to  the patrons  of prostitution;  however,                                                               
DPS is  dealing with  several core  vacancies in  the department,                                                               
something that is a major  hinderance in their ability to address                                                               
human  and  sex  trafficking.     He  said  in  the  future,  the                                                               
department should place more emphasis  on this issue as vacancies                                                               
are filled.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:43:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  asked  how much  sex  trafficking  was                                                               
occurring, and  whether there  was a  way to  quantify that.   He                                                               
also asked how  we could see or know whether  the policy measures                                                               
were working.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS said that currently,  the actual rates of victimization                                                               
in Alaska  were unknown  and complex in  nature.   She referenced                                                               
the Alaska  Victimization Survey  for rates of  domestic violence                                                               
and sexual assault, of which the  council does not have good data                                                               
to look to for numbers.   She said what's missing is hard numbers                                                               
on labor and  sex trafficking.  Current  data represented victims                                                               
that  had  come in  contact  with  the  system or  agencies  that                                                               
screened/identified  them;  or  victims that  had  self-reported.                                                               
She mentioned  adding discreet questions  to the  behavioral risk                                                               
surveillance systems, Behavioral  Risk Factor Surveillance System                                                               
(BRFSS)  and Youth  Risk  Behavior  Surveillance System  (YRBSS).                                                               
She  believed that  increased  self-reporting  could result  from                                                               
policy  changes  because  victims  feel safer  to  come  forward;                                                               
however,   it   wouldn't   necessarily  mean   an   increase   in                                                               
victimization.  She  said that trend analysis  would be necessary                                                               
to  see how  the  council  should respond  to  it  from a  policy                                                               
perspective, and to  more clearly see what  effect these policies                                                               
have.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER asked  what dollar  figure was  driving                                                               
demand in  human & sex trafficking  as well as prostitution.   He                                                               
asked if  there were any  data sets on the  cost per type  of sex                                                               
act performed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TEPAS  said rates  vary  based  on  time  and sex  act,  she                                                               
estimated $250.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER said  he's not  particularly interested                                                               
in how much  anything costs and asked whether  the financial data                                                               
could be another way to measure  whether or not the policies were                                                               
working.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY   COMISSIONER   BARLOW   responded,   by   comparing   sex                                                               
trafficking  to drugs  in the  sense of  how they  relate in  the                                                               
market sense of buyer-and-seller.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:55:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  reiterated his belief that  a method of                                                               
measurement was  needed to give  the legislature an idea  of what                                                               
to do.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMISSIONER BARLOW  responded, acknowledging  his belief,                                                               
and said  they could look  at their reporting mechanisms  and the                                                               
data they  were collecting specific  to that as a  measurement of                                                               
how successful policies were.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  reported that  human trafficking  is a  $150 billion                                                               
enterprise  globally, adding  that  it surpassed  the small  arms                                                               
trade  years ago  and is  catching up  with the  drug trafficking                                                               
trade.    She said  per  a  report  from  Gwen Adams,  that  Each                                                               
individual  sex   trafficking  victim  has  a   street  value  of                                                               
$200,000,  an Alaska-specific  value, with  their services  being                                                               
used up to 10  times per day.  She said part  of what the council                                                               
is doing is trying to quantify a value specifically for Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  reiterated that he wanted  to make data                                                               
driven policy decisions that were result driven.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  agreed. She  said currently  they'd not  have adequate                                                               
resources to  perform all of the  duties they'd like to,  so they                                                               
must be  careful.   She suggested  that if  the council  were put                                                               
into  statute,  the initial  piece  of  work  would be  the  data                                                               
collection, mapping, and the evaluation of the data.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:01:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH questioned current  data on the prevalence of                                                               
sex trafficking in  Alaska, in addition to  domestic violence and                                                               
sexual assault.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  reiterated that prevalence  data was not  available on                                                               
rates of victimization  for sex and human trafficking.   She said                                                               
they  do  have data  on  sexual  assault and  domestic  violence,                                                               
because of the  AVS survey.  She stressed the  point that numbers                                                               
of  domestic violence  and sexual  assault  victims far  outweigh                                                               
victims  of sex  trafficking victims.   She  said that  many data                                                               
centers may  only provide  a snapshot of  the full  problem, also                                                               
noting that many  victims don't come forward in  the first place.                                                               
She cited  more components of  data from  different organizations                                                               
were forthcoming.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GROH   acknowledged  the   substantial   problem                                                               
worldwide  and in  Alaska,  and further  noted  that this  occurs                                                               
everywhere in the  state, not just in  the bush.  He  said that a                                                               
person  growing  up  in  Alaska  is  more  likely  to  experience                                                               
domestic violence  or sexual  assault then they  are to  become a                                                               
victim  of sex  trafficking,  and  asked if  that  was a  correct                                                               
statement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  said risk  factors were the  same for  sex trafficking                                                               
and  domestic violence/sexual  assault,  saying at  a very  basic                                                               
level they are  predominantly all the same.  She  said one factor                                                               
is  the Adverse  Childhood Experience  (ACEs) Score,  which is  a                                                               
very  strong indicator  across  all victimhood.    She said  that                                                               
victims of  childhood sexual assault  were more likely  to become                                                               
victims of sex trafficking.   Overall, she said that risk factors                                                               
across the board are all  the same, but sex trafficking presented                                                               
slightly differently.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  asked whether  any organizations  had                                                               
aggregated data  for consistency, and  if so, who  is aggregating                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  answered that  the CDVSA is  the organization  that is                                                               
compiling all the data that they have identified.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C.  JOHNSON  asked  "if there  was  a  formatting                                                               
formula for how we ask these questions."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS she said that  most entities use similar definitions of                                                               
trafficking, which is defined by federal  law.  She cited HB 259,                                                               
saying one of the things in  that bill is to standardize language                                                               
surrounding Human and  Sex Trafficking.  She  said that sometimes                                                               
different entities  label things as  one thing that might  not be                                                               
the other in the legal/criminal realm.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C.  JOHNSON asked  whether there was  anything the                                                               
legislature could do to expedite the unification of data.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TEPAS pointed  out that  passing HB  259 would  be the  best                                                               
thing  the  legislature  could  do,  considering  that  they  are                                                               
currently operating under administrative order.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER asked  who investigated  labor trafficking                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARLOW  responded, saying that  there is not a  "strong push"                                                               
right now  from anyone,  citing a lack  of resources  to dedicate                                                               
towards that front of labor trafficking.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE sought  to clarify whether the  current statute gives                                                               
DPS any authority with regards to labor trafficking.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARLOW said  he'd have  to refer  to the  statute to  answer                                                               
Chair Vance's question accurately.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  shared her  belief that  it wasn't  clearly defined.                                                               
She stressed the  importance of HB 68, because  it clarifies that                                                               
authority in statute  for the state to take action.   In response                                                               
to Representative  Sumner, she  said she  believes that  only the                                                               
Federal  bureau  of  Investigation  (FBI) has  the  authority  to                                                               
investigate labor trafficking cases.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TEPAS  said  that  the Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                               
Development  (DLUD) has  some  authority  to investigate  certain                                                               
aspects  of  labor  trafficking.   She  stated  that  the  Alaska                                                               
Institute for Justice  is the only entity right now  that has any                                                               
data on labor trafficking.  She  added that DPS was not currently                                                               
investigating any labor trafficking.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD asked  why  data wasn't  in  front of  the                                                               
committee when plenty of notice was given.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  explained that  the data  sets are  from a  variety of                                                               
different organizations from  places all over the  world, as well                                                               
as  the  constant  sifting  and   vetting  of  all  of  the  data                                                               
contribute to it taking a long time to put together.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD explained that  she was concerned about the                                                               
idea that the CHST needs more staff to compile the data.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS responded  that CHST is compiling data  but doesn't own                                                               
the data.   She explained that the legislature would  have to ask                                                               
the entities that own the data and apologized.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  explained  why the  committee  was  frustrated  and                                                               
wanted an  overall picture of  victimization and the rate  of the                                                               
problem of trafficking in Alaska.   She reiterated and emphasized                                                               
her  respect  for  the  CHST  and the  work  that  they  do,  and                                                               
recognized why  exactly they  might not have  all the  data right                                                               
now.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:27:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY questioned how  the CDVSA board/director make                                                               
up was different from the makeup of the CHST.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  said there is  some overlap in membership  between the                                                               
two councils. She said the  overlap occurs in some state entities                                                               
and agencies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:29:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  questioned the  necessity  of  the CHST  if                                                               
trafficking  crimes  are  a subset  of  domestic  violence/sexual                                                               
assault and could be dealt with by the CDVSA.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS said  that sex trafficking isn't a subset,  and that it                                                               
has unique aspects of the crime  that created the need and desire                                                               
for the CHST.   She further discussed the one  director two board                                                               
model and how  it is efficient and beneficial,  and she explained                                                               
that  merging populations  might not  be the  best thing  because                                                               
they  both  demand  such  different services  and  have  so  many                                                               
different needs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMISSIONER BARLOW  agreed  with  Ms. Tepas,  emphasizing                                                               
that the  one director two  board model  worked well for  the two                                                               
councils.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY said  he  didn't want  this  to eclipse  the                                                               
enormous  problem  of domestic  violence  and  sexual assault  by                                                               
splitting the directors and consolidating staff.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS  explained that the  decision to consolidate  under the                                                               
CDVSA  was  mainly in  the  name  of efficiency,  something  that                                                               
prioritizes  the needs  of domestic  violence and  sexual assault                                                               
while also not wanting to diminish the needs of sex trafficking.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD  asked  whether   she  would  be  open  to                                                               
employee audits.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TEPAS said she welcomed anyone  looking at the volume of work                                                               
that  they  have and  the  need,  saying  that  the CHST  or  DPS                                                               
wouldn't be making an ask if it wasn't needed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:39:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMISSIONER BARLOW clarified  that the need for additional                                                               
staff was to  fill vacancies to fulfill  the responsibilities and                                                               
needs of each position more appropriately.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE thanked the presenters  for the update and reiterated                                                               
her support and respect for the  work that the Council on Human &                                                               
Sex Trafficking does.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:41:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:41 p.m.                                                                 

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